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Post by SSC on Jan 25, 2006 19:01:02 GMT -5
Hey everybody, it'd help me if you'd all vote for your view on marijuana, and maybe give some information about your reason for voting. It would be a big favor, because I have a college research paper to right about such topic.
Just a few things to keep in mind: Marijuana is not addictive, you can drive better on it when inebriated off that than when you've been drinking alchohol, and tests have shown that marijuana legalization would result in less crime and far less violence throughout the country. Also: If you believe that medical marijuana would make everything better, think about the doctors who would sell the marijuana in black-market form to make a few extra dollars.
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Post by The Charming Canuck on Jan 26, 2006 2:30:13 GMT -5
I totally think that marijuana should be legalized, reasons: there would be more jail space for real criminals, restraunts would do very well (I am not joking that is the truth), It doesn't anger people like alcohol does, I would rather people drive stoned than drunk, tho I don't think that a person high on pot would want to drive , people would be happier all around I think and there would be less depression at least in this state. I think that we should look in using hemp products as well because it would be better on our environment. Hemp is a strong fiber and it makes good paper and fabric and I don't see why we cut down tree's when we could use hemp. Also I think that the legallization of medicinal marijauna is the first step in complete legalization. If the goverment controlled it like everything else there wouldn't be a black market.
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Post by abrannan on Jan 26, 2006 9:17:24 GMT -5
Also: If you believe that medical marijuana would make everything better, think about the doctors who would sell the marijuana in black-market form to make a few extra dollars. So we should also legalize painkillers, and other restricted perscription drugs, because some doctors write fake perscriptions? Full legalization of medical marijuana just to counteract perscription fraud does not solve the problem. To me, there isn't enough long term, high volume, use studies to truly determine the long term effects of MJ (Think two pack a day smoker). However, there are demonstrated medical benefits that would justify the use of marijuana as a restricted class medication, when used under the care and supervision of a doctor. There are also other pieces of MJ legislation that don't make sense, but allowing medical use (or rather, allowing the states to determine for themselves if medical use is appropriate) is a start.
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Post by The Charming Canuck on Jan 26, 2006 11:53:49 GMT -5
Well you don't have to smoke MJ, you can make special brownies....
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Post by abrannan on Jan 26, 2006 12:15:58 GMT -5
True, but certain medical applications (especially those related to helping chemo patients keep food down) rely on smoking.
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Post by sakura on Jan 26, 2006 17:15:14 GMT -5
Well you don't have to smoke MJ, you can make special brownies.... [glow=green,2,300]hash brownies!!![/glow]
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Post by SSC on Jan 26, 2006 17:43:54 GMT -5
And to talk about that hash brownies, they are actually rather safe. Rather safe indeed.
No lung complications, no worries about anything, except for the 70% increase in chance of having a heart-attack after consuming (test was done with smoking) marijuana. This was done by Harvard I believe... no. Ahhh. I can't remember. I forgot all my stuff at school.
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Post by MATS on Jan 27, 2006 21:50:52 GMT -5
i dont do drugs but i dont think that legalizing it would hurt anyone
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Post by paintballerdude on Jan 30, 2006 6:10:03 GMT -5
I think it should be legalized, like people have stated I dont think it would hurt. As for solving some crime yes some, but not all drug crimes would be solved. I meen if someones selling it and if someone stiffs then whats to stop the true gangsta from shooting them lol. Unless ofcourse you could but it anywhere like in the stores, then everyone would be walking around high. As for what wings that mj doesnt anger people. Well in most cases true but not in a buddy of mine. He will start out laughing and all then someone will say something he doesnt understand and he thinks its bad hell jump off the hange and want to fight them then all a sudden bust out laughing.. He also likes to sing when hes high lol. I cant say to much hes my source for it...
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Post by zeldy2 on Jan 30, 2006 23:53:26 GMT -5
I don't think so... Why? People try to stop smoking CIGARETTE, imagine if Marijuana would be legalized, BUT, i have no objections for medical purposes. I don't think that ANY drug should be legal out of medical purpose (cigarette, marijuana etc...) And btw, smoking to much marijuana make the neuronal connections slower, so think about it, but not too slow eh PS : i have nothing against people who smoke it, until that they do not smoke it right in my face
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Post by The Charming Canuck on Jan 31, 2006 14:13:42 GMT -5
Okay well think about this, there are states that are pushing for assisted suicide and how wrong is that (I realize that these people may be in pain but to off yourself is no way to go, that is for criminals). But yet we cant legalize marijuana for those who are dying and would rather live out the remainder of their lives smoking pot and feeling decent?? Hmm prety screwed up if you ask me.
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Post by abrannan on Jan 31, 2006 14:55:42 GMT -5
Straw man argument. Whether or not assisted suicide is right or wrong has no bearing on the merits of marijuana legalization.
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Post by NESCartFanatic on Jan 31, 2006 15:34:42 GMT -5
Wowza what a poll.
Ahh the good old smoking days... sure I miss them. And I believe in legalization 100%. The whole reefer madness era ruined it for all of us and it's gotten way out of hand. I still have all my brain cells. (I think the kids do more damage to them than a couple of puffs.. lol)
I was a casual smoker after I graduated HS and before I became a parent. Obviously now I have to show some self restraint. I don't drink alcohol, I don't like it. I liked that feeling after I had a few inhales. I was relaxed, my brain finally shut up for once and I didn't have a care in the world for awhile but enjoying the "complete" sound of the music I was listening to. You smokers know what I'm talking about... lol.
I think looking at a cig and a joint side by side, you know which one is better and it's just wrong to think people go to jail for it longer than child molesters, robbers and just "bad" people.
Anyways, there's my two little pennies.
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Post by psisar on Jan 31, 2006 16:00:36 GMT -5
Okay well think about this, there are states that are pushing for assisted suicide and how wrong is that (I realize that these people may be in pain but to off yourself is no way to go, that is for criminals). But yet we cant legalize marijuana for those who are dying and would rather live out the remainder of their lives smoking pot and feeling decent?? Hmm prety screwed up if you ask me. I fail to see how euthanasia and the legalization of marijuana are correlated. It's like saying, "People want to make bungee jumping off my apartment building legal, so I should be able to rollerblade in the middle of the street." Either way, people are gonna smoke pot. It's that simple. If they did legalize it, big deal. The potheads are going to keep smoking, and the people who know it's bad for you are going to stay away from it (take cigarettes as an example). Medicinal mariuana is already legal anyways, so meh.
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Post by abrannan on Jan 31, 2006 16:27:12 GMT -5
Medicinal mariuana is already legal anyways, so meh. Not for those of us "South of the Border".
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Post by zeldy2 on Jan 31, 2006 16:47:20 GMT -5
Okay well think about this, there are states that are pushing for assisted suicide and how wrong is that (I realize that these people may be in pain but to off yourself is no way to go, that is for criminals). But yet we cant legalize marijuana for those who are dying and would rather live out the remainder of their lives smoking pot and feeling decent?? Hmm prety screwed up if you ask me. Excuse me but i never said i didn't agree for Medical purpose, i don't agree to legalize it in general... But anywaqy, legalized or not, as psisar said, people will smoke it anyway so... it's just that it's my opinion. And comparing Marijuana to assisted scuicide is a BIG mistake because they are two completely differents subjects wich have almost no connections each other...
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Post by The Charming Canuck on Jan 31, 2006 18:36:19 GMT -5
Well I was talking about the moral of it. Smoking Marijuana is not like killing yourself, you are right. think about it moral of smoking pot, moral of killing yourself, morla of drinking alcohol, you get the picture. Why we would even think about assisted suicide is beyond me. In my opinion it is wrong, and I had a best friend I had to watch suffer from a disease that has no cure but to see him kill himself because of it, he never would have though about it, he kept on fighting. And to me you'd have to be a coward to kill yourself because you had little hope of living. That's all I am saying.
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Post by zeldy2 on Jan 31, 2006 23:09:52 GMT -5
Well I was talking about the moral of it. Smoking Marijuana is not like killing yourself, you are right. think about it moral of smoking pot, moral of killing yourself, morla of drinking alcohol, you get the picture. Why we would even think about assisted suicide is beyond me. In my opinion it is wrong, and I had a best friend I had to watch suffer from a disease that has no cure but to see him kill himself because of it, he never would have though about it, he kept on fighting. And to me you'd have to be a coward to kill yourself because you had little hope of living. That's all I am saying. as you see, we all have different opinions, i'm for assisted scuicide becuase one of my uncle had an incurable disease (muscular distrophy , sorry i don't know the exact english name) and he died because his lungs couldn't catch his breath in the end so... But i'm not for the fact that someone, who is healthy and allright would want to destroy his body for smoking... (or taking any ILLEGAL drugs) That's my opinion about it.
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Post by The Charming Canuck on Feb 1, 2006 3:11:14 GMT -5
I know muscular distophy I had a friend who died from it too, but he kept on fight till the end, he was an inspiration for all. John Metzger will live in my memory forever as well as anyone who ever met him, he wouldn't have wanted assisted suicide either. I know of two people that I know it owuld have been harder to let go of if they had killed themselves because there is always the chance that they could have lived. Anyways Marijuana would at least help these people who are dying to at least feel some sort of normalcy, a life with out pain or a least greatly decreased. I also feel that it is safer than most of the drugs used in medicine. Here is an article www.taima.org/en/jamm.htm I think it is a bit biased but still. I really think it should be legal for all. If it was controlled it would work. I don't see any point in putting people in jail for smoking it. It is a waste of jail space. Liek I siad before I find that alcohol is worse than marijauna.
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Post by zeldy2 on Feb 1, 2006 10:07:10 GMT -5
If it was controlled it would work. It's still not legal and uncontrolled, how do you think they could controll it after?
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