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Post by dufresne1 on Feb 2, 2007 0:48:11 GMT -5
hey everyone. so i finally decided to start playing ddr and everything has been great so far, i'm losing weight and loving it!
The only thing is that I'm getting pretty bored with all the songs, and the workout mode. I have DDR max, which is probably really crappy right? My friend gave it to me for free, though.
So my question is, what ddr game out there is the all-around best? (i have a ps2, btw).
And also, how are the workout modes in the newer ddrs?
Thanks guys.
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Post by abrannan on Feb 2, 2007 9:34:03 GMT -5
DDRMAX isn't crappy. DDR was pretty well established by the time MAX rolled around, so most of the differences are based around the music selection. The only thing MAX was really lacking was Beginner Mode, which you probably don't need right now. I'll give you a quick rundown on what's available for PS2 and you can make your own decision:
DDRMAX2 - Adds Beginner mode, not too many "pop"songs (i.e. songs non-ddr players would know) DDR Extreme - More "pop" songs, changes to workout mode (It will now keep track of your calories burned in any mode, but eliminates the traditional "workout mode". Adds EyeToy support DDR Extreme 2 - Same as extreme, but changes the unlock method from number of songs played to "Dance Master" mode (basically mission mode) DDR Supernova - Changes Dance Master Mode to Stellar Master Mode (essentially the same, but allows you to choose which challenges to complete to unlock a zone/songs, which allows you to unlock things at a lower difficulty)
NON DDR Dance Games -
In The Groove - My Personal Fave of all available dance games. Is out of print due to a lawsuit against the makers, but can still be pretty easily found at many stores. Songs average 2:00 long, rather than DDR's 1:30. Adds a lot more modifiers. Unlocks are handled by number of songs played (same as Max/Max2), but there is also an "unlock all" code. Calorie tracking is way off the high end (i.e. it'll say you've burned 1000 calories before you've even broken a sweat)
Flow: Urban Dance Uprising - Hip-Hop Themed DDR. Lacks a lot of features, but if Hip-Hop is your thing, it may be worth checking out
Dance Factory - MadCatz entry into the genre, mixing DDR and Monster Rancher. You put your own CDs of songs into the game, and it makes up steps on the fly. By all accounts, this game is a disaster
Pump it Up - The "other" Dance game. Uses 5 "arrows" 4 corners and center. Straight Arcade port, so there are a dearth of modes. Heavy on Korean Pop and Classical Techno Mixes. Requires a different mat than DDR, which is included with the game.
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Post by The Charming Canuck on Feb 2, 2007 12:29:51 GMT -5
My personal favorites are Supernova and Extreme2 I have Flow:Urban Dance Uprising and the arrows are a bit hard to see on the screen but I love music selection they have. I personally like the work out modes on Super nova and Extreme2 ^_^ they actually track how far you have gone as far as steps like as if you are running. I think the others do to but I am not sure. These two have like a little man at the bottom of your finished screen showing how far you've gone.
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Post by sakura on Feb 2, 2007 16:15:09 GMT -5
I loved DDR MAX!!!!!
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Post by dufresne1 on Feb 2, 2007 23:13:59 GMT -5
thank you all very much for your input! i'm definitely going to go buy a new game soon.
oh and for the record, the only thing i didn't like about ddrmax was the seemingly small song selections. whenever i went to the arcade there always seemed to be a million songs, and on ddrmax there aren't many. that's all.
but thanks everyone i appreciate it!
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Post by legend on Feb 3, 2007 5:49:15 GMT -5
Actually All home versions have around the same number of songs. Sorry.
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Post by Spooty Biscuit on Feb 3, 2007 11:41:51 GMT -5
Yeah, it really all boils down to the fact that a PS2 disk can only fit so many songs on it. They tend to all have around 70-75 songs. Arcades have more because... well, they're a huge machine completely dedicated to playing DDR.
And anyway, depending on what you mean by the fact that you're "bored" with the songs on MAX, I'd suggest different things.
If you mean that all the songs are no sweat for you to AA on heavy now, then it's definitely time to move onto ITG, since it has the added challenges of mines, hands, longer songs, and generally harder stepcharts (difficulty gets up to 13, rather than DDR's scale of 10). If you get another DDR version, you'll most likely be upset with the same lack of challenge.
If you're still at a lower level of play, then I'll toss out MAX2 as a suggestion. MAX2 was the mix I started on and I thought it was tons of fun.
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Post by abrannan on Feb 3, 2007 11:51:26 GMT -5
Yeah, it really all boils down to the fact that a PS2 disk can only fit so many songs on it. They tend to all have around 70-75 songs. Arcades have more because... well, they're a huge machine completely dedicated to playing DDR. Actually, it has more to do with the costs of licensing the songs than capacity. A PS2 disk can be up to a dual-layer DVD, handling about 9GB of data. The PS2 DDR releases run at about 1GB of data, depending on the number of FMV videos. If licensing costs weren't an issue, they could cram every PS2 release onto one disk.
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Post by giamatti on Feb 2, 2008 23:19:06 GMT -5
Pump it Up - The "other" Dance game. Uses 5 "arrows" 4 corners and center. Straight Arcade port, so there are a dearth of modes. Heavy on Korean Pop and Classical Techno Mixes. Requires a different mat than DDR, which is included with the game. interesting sense of perjudice and discrimination, fanboy
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Post by abrannan on Feb 3, 2008 11:38:22 GMT -5
Pump it Up - The "other" Dance game. Uses 5 "arrows" 4 corners and center. Straight Arcade port, so there are a dearth of modes. Heavy on Korean Pop and Classical Techno Mixes. Requires a different mat than DDR, which is included with the game. interesting sense of perjudice and discrimination, fanboy Well, it was a year ago that I wrote that, so I can't accurately recall my state of mind. I am curious how you decided I was a fanboy based on those statements. I stated nothing that wasn't factual. To be honest, I love PIU, but the home port was a large disappointment. Andamiro did a half-assed job on it, and didn't include many of the features that a proper home version should have had. Plus, when recommending games to others, you have to consider the outlay cost of hardware. A 4-arrow DDR style mat is far more useful than a 5-arrow PIU mat. But of course, you've already read all of my other opinions on PIU here, before you accused me of prejudice. Or did you pre-judge me yourself, based on only one sentence I wrote?
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Post by agent709 on Feb 7, 2008 11:57:27 GMT -5
I so regret selling off my DDR games now that I'm back into it. WTF is up with Extreme 1 being so 'rare' all of a sudden? XD
I just know I'll never get another copy of In the Groove... well, at least a COMPLETE copy.
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Post by abrannan on Feb 7, 2008 12:06:13 GMT -5
Pretty much all of the DDR games become somewhat "rare" once the intial print runs sell out (usually 9 months to a year after release). People don't tend to trade them in to Gamestop, and the print runs are fairly small to begin with.
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Post by agent709 on Feb 7, 2008 12:11:14 GMT -5
Well I guess I better snipe stuff on ebay asap.
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Post by xstatic on Feb 7, 2008 13:41:09 GMT -5
I saw the ITG bundle at a store during Christmas time. It was like a sam goody or something. Not a place I would have EVER thought to look.
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Post by chococat25 on Mar 10, 2008 2:31:40 GMT -5
Thanks guys. This is extremely helpful info
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Post by bambi29 on May 30, 2008 9:02:29 GMT -5
agent709 Target.com has one thereI n the Groove Dance Pad/Game Bundle for PlayStation 2 for 19.99!!
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Post by xstatic on Jun 11, 2008 20:15:00 GMT -5
wow, really? god, I do think I should pick this up at this point now.... For collector purposes...
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Post by epi on Apr 22, 2010 2:44:58 GMT -5
Update: I guess people are finally abandoning their DDR games. When I went into Gamestop to buy up on the DDR releases I got every single on in the used PS2 bin.
The only one I still haven't got is ITG, but I see they sell them brand new on Amazon for like 9 bucks (I guess there are distributors, they just don't stock the game in stores). I mistakenly bought Dance Factory first hoping against all hope that it would be slightly good... and it would have been alright too if the up/down arrow weren't switched and dragged across the screen and the stepfiles were even seemingly interesting to jump too... unfortunately pressing the left button 15 times in a row when the songs beat clearly suggests that it have a specific pattern just gets ridiculous, it would just be less of a hassle creating the files yourself in Stepmania; which I'll do once I get bored of all my current DDR releases. For now though its all about losing weight.
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Post by chiefeagle02 on Apr 30, 2010 14:41:25 GMT -5
I'd recently gotten started with StepMania. I downloaded the program (Linux, ftw) and a bunch of songs. The overall set-up and execution definitely brings back memories of the old PS2 days. My only gripe is a sync issue with some of the songs (either that or it's my laptop. I don't have a USB Pad...yet). The StepMania scene is a lot like the Dreamcast Homebrew scene. So long as there are dedicated fans who are willing to drive it, there will always be support and new content. And with legions of fans all over the world, I think StepMania will stay around for a while.
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