Overrated and Underrated Songs

[MATS]

5.1.1 should be a 9 footer, L'amour should be shot dead.

[SSC]

5.1.1. should be a 9 footer?!

Maybe 8 because it has some wierd footings, but no way a 9.

Explain.

[MATS]

To do it right normal steps you have to spin or double step really weird.
But I hax it with shuffle.

[sly rax]

Genom Screams Heavy Double should NOT be a 10. That part near the beginning is a little weird, and there are some fairly complicated streams. Beyond that, there really is nothing to make it very hard at all. There are still 7-footers that I struggle with, and I can pass Genom Screams. My score is nothing amazing, but then none of my scores are (especially on Double).

[pinkstar172]

Well..actually I learned the most on HoLic..everyone says its an easy song..which when yew play it enough it is..but I played it the 1st time on Heavy..didnt even look at the standard or light..and i passed it. Thats when I learned how to do jumps with double-steps n such..

[pinkstar172]

hmm...i feel very n00bish rite now..i think I jus posted on the wrong board..*shrugs* owell

[SSC]

Drifting Away --- 9.
My Summer Love --- 8.
Maximizer --- 9 (Maybe. I'd say it's inbetween.)
Long Train Runnin' --- 8.

Love is Dreaminess...not a 10, but really really hard.

[legend]

so deep is so underaded it should be a 10

[SSC]

No, it's not.

It follows the same basic pattern through the first half of the song. Then, halfway through, it switches rhythm a little bit and repeats that for the rest of the song.

If you can gallop, and you can keep your stamina up, it's quite easy.

[ryanddrfreak]

legend of max should be a 10 flashing footer on heavy

[SSC]

It...is... same with Paranoia Survivor Max and PSMO.

[tiger YAMATO]

Let's go back half a year or so and address some issues.

SheScreamedClaudio said:

I agree with the cartoon heroes. I think they should make the Healing Vision Angelic Mix to a 10 footer. I also think that they should up the difficulty on Trip Machine Climax some...

HVAM was made before 10 footers existed, and it's NOT worth the rating. Cartoon Heroes is a 9.4 going by the groove radar.

sly said:

And yes, Paranoia KCET was an 8 originally. I get the feeling that the upgrade was honorary.

KCET was around before the catastrophic rating was invented. 8 was the highest it could be, and even though I personally don't think it is a 9, I don't make those calls.

SheScreamedClaudio said:

I really don't think Bag should be a 10 on Heavy... it's quite easy even without speed modifiers

It's because of the 32nd notes at 65bpm (though the song is at 130. Fixed in IIDX. :D)

SheScreamedClaudio said:

Heavy.
End of the century should be a 9.

It is as of its 7th Mix revival. Any discrepancies since then have been errors, much like the Wild Rush PCM error (if you don't know about that, it's probably a good thing). :x

Novacaine3 said:

I think max300 is harder than maxX Unlimited

AND max300 has the second fastst rate of steps per second

even faster than unlimited, legend, PSM

evrything but PSMO and Max period heavy

MaxX is markedly more difficult than MAX300 due to the tempo changes, the hell run being 8th8thjump combinations, the freeze arrows, and that ONE JUMP AT THE END you can only get by playing flatfooted and sliding really fast. But your opinion. Also the fact that less people have AAA'd MaxX than have MAX300...

PSMO has a section that requires faster movement of your body due to the twisting you need to do in the hell run. Sweet Sweet Love Magic also has a section that is faster than MAX300.

SheScreamedClaudio said:

upon playing them yesterday, I asked myself the question why TLOM was a 9 on Standard and MaxX Unlimited was an 8. It should be exactly flip flop.

The BPM is the primary reason, though the jumps in MaxX standard IMO easily make it a 9. It will never be fixed though because there's not going to be any new AC mixes in the near future. I agree with you though.

[ryanddrfreak]

wow you really didnt have to do that i mean that was before i came hear?

[xstatic]

I admit though... I found his post interesting to read.

[legend]

it was cool but it was long

[ryanddrfreak]

tiger said:

Let's go back half a year or so and address some issues.




HVAM was made before 10 footers existed, and it's NOT worth the rating. Cartoon Heroes is a 9.4 going by the groove radar.



KCET was around before the catastrophic rating was invented. 8 was the highest it could be, and even though I personally don't think it is a 9, I don't make those calls.



It's because of the 32nd notes at 65bpm (though the song is at 130. Fixed in IIDX. )





It is as of its 7th Mix revival. Any discrepancies since then have been errors, much like the Wild Rush PCM error (if you don't know about that, it's probably a good thing). :x



MaxX is markedly more difficult than MAX300 due to the tempo changes, the hell run being 8th8thjump combinations, the freeze arrows, and that ONE JUMP AT THE END you can only get by playing flatfooted and sliding really fast. But your opinion. Also the fact that less people have AAA'd MaxX than have MAX300...

PSMO has a section that requires faster movement of your body due to the twisting you need to do in the hell run. Sweet Sweet Love Magic also has a section that is faster than MAX300.



The BPM is the primary reason, though the jumps in MaxX standard IMO easily make it a 9. It will never be fixed though because there's not going to be any new AC mixes in the near future. I agree with you though.

this is about this thread answer questions to this!

[Judas]

look Sukura <--how ever you spell it) is a 10 footer... i can't do it on heavy mode.... but on oni mode i can with a X1.5 mode at that.... i think they should change the order and make it a 10 on oni, and i 9 on heavy... plus the part when it gets down to 17 bpm is when the people who don't know the song die... or some time shortly after when the song is slow for a wile... that is when i die.... if it never got sooooo slow i would be able to do it every time....

next

Bag... is a 10 footer when an X1... but on X3 or X5 it is a good 9....

So Deep.... is a 9.5 i can do it....

from hardest to not the hardest (will not say the word EZ because they are not)

1. PAR. SEV. MAX ONI
2. LEGION OF MAX
3. PAR. SEV MAX HEAVY
4. MAXX UNLIM.
5. MAX 300
6. PAR SEV HEAVY
7. SAKURA
8. BAG

note that Max. (period) is in there somewhere but i don't have the song.... i know that it is as hard as LOM or something like that but i am not sure mybe a 2.5

[Judas]

and as for maxX unlimited on stand. is should be a 9. and leg. of max should also be a 9

[sly rax]

Judas said:

look Sukura <--how ever you spell it) is a 10 footer... i can't do it on heavy mode.... but on oni mode i can with a X1.5 mode at that.... i think they should change the order and make it a 10 on oni, and i 9 on heavy... plus the part when it gets down to 17 bpm is when the people who don't know the song die... or some time shortly after when the song is slow for a wile... that is when i die.... if it never got sooooo slow i would be able to do it every time....

Really, the reason it is not a "real" 10 is because there is no stamina drain in it when compared with most 9s. All of the other 10s (except Bag, which is just a reading and PA nightmare) have major stamina drain that sets them apart...as in, it feels like you played Cartoon Heroes and then some. Sakura is a 10 because it is gimmicky. The gimmicks are getting you now, but you just need some practice. The whole slow part is not 17BPM; I think it is 75. Maybe you are overcompensating for the speed drop? Just the part with the freeze and the single step gets down to 17BPM.

The reason that Sakura is a 10 on Heavy and 9 on Oni is because you can't play Oni versions of songs in Extra Stage (unless they are Challenge-Only). So, they figured people would rather play Sakura in Extra Stage as a 10 rather than a 9.

[SSC]

Judas said:

and as for maxX unlimited on stand. is should be a 9. and leg. of max should also be a 9

Uh... the MaxX thing has already been mentioned several times, but I agree.

TLoM IS a 9 footer on Standard.