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Post by The Charming Canuck on Dec 19, 2005 8:18:53 GMT -5
I was trying to find things to post on so here is something for y'all. Aspertame is a substitue sugar that in my opinon should never have been approved by the FDA. It is very bad stuff. I get Migraines from it so I stay away from it. I know that when I drink or eat aspertame products I literally feel like I am drinking/eating poison. I found a site with an article on aspertame and the 92 effects that it has on the human body. Here is the link www.sweetpoison.com/aspartame-side-effects.htmland an exceprt from the beginning of the article There are over 92 different health side effects associated with aspartame consumption. It seems surreal, but true. How can one chemical create such chaos?
Aspartame dissolves into solution and can therefore travel throughout the body and deposit within any tissue. The body digests aspartame unlike saccharin, which does not break down within humans.
The multitude of aspartame side effects are indicative to your genetic individuality and physical weaknesses. It is important to put two and two together, nonetheless, and identify which side effects aspartame is creating within you.Here is a link to a scientific study done www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=34040There are people out there too that claim splenda is bad for you too but I haven't found a scientific article on it, only blogs n such, but I would like to know more about splenda or sucralose. A reliable site with scientific evidence to back it, i.e. tests, experiments, ect Aspertame is very bad reguardless of what the FDA says. I hope that someday it will be outlawed. I mean it's like when the tabacco industry said tabacco was harmless. People aren't stupid. I know it gives me headaches and it tastes nasty, and I am not the only person that has these symptoms. What do you all think???
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Post by abrannan on Dec 19, 2005 9:01:56 GMT -5
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Post by The Charming Canuck on Dec 19, 2005 13:52:34 GMT -5
Thanks Abrannan I knew that aspertame can equivalate to wood alcohol in certain conditions(such as your diet soda out in the grage on a hot summre day) but I didn't have anything to back it up now I do. My ex mother in-law who is a nurse told me that and I was like OMG no way I will never drink warm diet soda again. Aspertame is yucky stuff and I have no clue as to why the FDA still allows it, It prolly has somthing to do with money tho.
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Post by abrannan on Dec 19, 2005 14:02:17 GMT -5
Perhaps you missed the header of the link I posted:
Claim: The artificial sweetener aspartame is responsible for an epidemic of cancer, brain tumors, and multiple sclerosis.
Status: False.
The FDA still allow it because there is no solid scientific evidence that it causes harm. Even Saccharine is still legal.
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Post by The Charming Canuck on Dec 19, 2005 14:24:00 GMT -5
sorry I did miss that. It was only in red I am blind. I still think it isn't good fro you tho cause think about it methanol is used in the process of making it. Also like I said before the tabacco industry also said that tabacco didn't cause cancer. under certain conditions aspertame has been found to cause cancer and tumors and other nasty things. It's only a matter of time before they really do some serious testing and find out it's negative effects.
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Post by abrannan on Dec 19, 2005 14:54:24 GMT -5
Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it's something you should ingest. But heck, there are a ton of things in everything processed we eat that are quite scary when you look at them up close. There are hundreds of toxic chemicals used in the production of all manner of additives. Take a look at the chemical gymnastics that are required to produce most of our more advanced medications.
Methanol is CH3OH, which is just a hydrocarbon, add some more carbon, hydrogen and oxygen and you get sucrose (C12H22O11). One is toxic and the other isn't, but given the proper chemical processes, I can make Sucrose out of Methanol. Does that make Sucrose toxic?
Again, I'm not disagreeing with you, and I don't want this to turn into another "green tea" topic, I'm just pointing out some fallacies of thinking when looking at information of this sort.
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Post by The Charming Canuck on Dec 19, 2005 15:07:40 GMT -5
I completely understand that. There are always 2 sides to a story and both prolly have truths in them but both also prolly have falacies and they are biased. I really would like it if they would like seriously research all these thing like all the time. Our bodies change too with the environment and what we ingest and take, I don't necacarily believe in evolution but I do believe in adaptation, i.e. taking medicines for the flu creates a super bug, and other things. I don't think it is good to be processing all our foods with chemicals n such. I try to buy organic as often as possible cause that is really the only way to be safe from additives, chemicals, and things. There is the argument tho that even tho it says organic it might not be, but I think it is kinda like things being kosher it goes thru processing and things. It is just best to eat fruit if you want something sweet, then you don't have to deal with the artificial sweeteners and chemicals. Anyways I have to go cause I have to go turn in my prescription for physical therapy. But I would like to know if Aspertame affects any one else as it does me. I get nasty headaches and I get really dizzy from it, It has been this way since I was a teenager. I can't drink diet coke. I don't really like soda anyways, it makes me thirsty. I can hardly choke down one can.
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Post by mnkeydo82 on Dec 19, 2005 22:10:30 GMT -5
Yummy nothing like a little formaldehyde in your soda.
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Post by StarDrifter on Dec 20, 2005 11:18:58 GMT -5
I managed to sidestep this by going back to "simple foods."
If I couldn't pronounce it, I wouldn't eat it. This was more of a rule of thumb: vegetarian meat substitutes and a very likeable juice with Splenda in it also made my diet. The juice was born of a desire to have more fruits: not to replace bad food with "diet" food.
Just personal experience here. Controlled portions of "non-diet" but smart foods balanced into a diet of 1400-1600 calories a day really did help. So did increasing my water intake and cutting out even diet sodas.
Even when sugar substitutes do cause cancer in lab animals, it's been my understanding that they were eating it in ridiculously high quantities for long periods of time. "A crate a day" was one phrase I've heard. Still, I just don't trust diet junk food enough to think it will help lose weight.
I also feel that a naturally lower-fat food is often way more filling and satisfying.
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Post by The Charming Canuck on Dec 20, 2005 13:03:48 GMT -5
some people drink like 12 diet soda's a day so that is still a lot of it to be intaking.
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Post by Grant. on Dec 20, 2005 15:09:28 GMT -5
well there's little calories in the diet soda's
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Post by abrannan on Dec 20, 2005 15:27:22 GMT -5
some people drink like 12 diet soda's a day so that is still a lot of it to be intaking. www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=2802896&dopt=AbstractSafety of long-term administration of 75 mg/kg of aspartame per day was evaluated with the use of a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled, parallel-group design in 108 male and female volunteers aged 18 to 62 years. Subjects received either aspartame or placebo in capsule form three times daily for 24 weeks. No persistent changes over time were noted in either group in vital signs; body weight; results of standard laboratory tests; fasting blood levels of aspartame's constituent amino acids (aspartic acid and phenylalanine), other amino acids, and methanol; or blood formate levels and 24-hour urinary excretion of formate. There also were no statistically significant differences between groups in the number of subjects experiencing symptoms or in the number of symptoms per subject. These results further document the safety of the long-term consumption of aspartame at doses equivalent to the amount of aspartame in approximately 10 L of beverage per day. (emphasis mine) There's hardcore diet coke drinking, and there's *hardcore* diet coke drinking. Nobody I know has ever drank the equivalent of ten liters of diet coke every day for 6 months.
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Post by The Charming Canuck on Dec 20, 2005 17:20:41 GMT -5
My aunt used to drink that much (10-12 cans a day) I don't know if she still does but it wouldn't suprise me.
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Post by abrannan on Dec 20, 2005 20:45:13 GMT -5
Cans are not Liters. 1 12 oz. can is roughly 1/3 of a liter. Your aunt was only drinking about 3-4 liters a day. That's still a lot, no doubt.
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Post by The Charming Canuck on Dec 21, 2005 1:51:35 GMT -5
Yeah I know It is too much soda anyways, and I really think that even diet soda is really bad for you, sugar or substitue sugar.
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Post by Grant. on Dec 21, 2005 11:50:55 GMT -5
it just said up there that it wasn't bad, rofl
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Post by ravevampyre on Jan 3, 2006 9:23:28 GMT -5
diet soda is yucky =( I get headaches from the aspartame too. Not bad ones, but I do get them. Unfortunately its used in my favorite light yogurt, so I still eat it anyway.
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Post by The Charming Canuck on Jan 3, 2006 13:45:57 GMT -5
have you tried blue bunny sugar free yogurts? I like those and they have splenda in them.
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Post by miyavifangirly on Jan 21, 2006 17:42:07 GMT -5
Augh. I dumped a packet of this stuff in my mouth as a dare during class. Tasted disgusting. It WAS like poison. Tasted like soap. No WONDER it has so many goddammned side effects.
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Post by abrannan on Jan 22, 2006 18:10:53 GMT -5
Huh. I used to eat the tablet form like candy when I was little.
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